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My rat Ben bit me just now,
Which is not like him as in the many months I've had him he has never bit even though when I first got him he was very skittish (still is with
strangers) and i don't think this was a fear bite but can any one tell me what might be the reason?

I was sitting on my bed with laptop and playing with them like I always do Ben usually hides under my bed and climbs back up when he hears food or wants attention , so he came over to me and I gave him some strokes and scratches like always but then he tried to pin my hand  (the scratches off his claws are actually worse than the bites) and bit my wrist  but not a quick sharp bite  it was a slow bite and several times , I did try squeaking to show my disapproval (I've heard this is what you should do to show a bite hurts) but he still did it again, i put him in his cage and only after that did i notice it start bleeding ,

I wonder did I upset him or was he just playing to roughly or was it a dominance thing? sometimes I've heard Loki give an awful squeak when they play fight but this has only happened twice and usually they are very mellow with each other

ben has pinned my arm before but then only licked it or nibbled it so i don't know why he was more aggressive this time.

I tried searching the web but couldn't find a similar enough story :c
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luna141 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
maby he had a bite or sore or tender spot that you couldent see, and you touched it when you pet him and it made him freak out a little? thats the first thing that comes to my mind...
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Brownie-12 Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well :/ reasons could be that he doesnt feel good or is under pain. I don't think he'd bite you like that for attention.
Only when the rats don't know you yet they try out how far they can go :b. But Ben knows you already so that can't be it :I.
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Hanyuu-Kitty-chan Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
Ouch, that does seem painful. Either Ben wants some attention or just some peace and quiet, which I believe you were quiet at that time.
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LozIsNoo Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
My guess with all animals at the moment is the fire works. Nearly all my animals at my dads got really scared, Pepper, my dads cat, was lying on my bed, I started to stroke her and we played a little, then a fire work went off and she hissed at me and bit me quiet hard. The chickens, horses and cows all had a reaction too, as we heard them all make funny noises. I don't know much about rats too be honest, only guinea pigs, gerbils and rabbits in the small animal category =3
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mechanicalmasochist Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
after reading this I have taken fireworks in to account so many people have been setting them off all week very close to my house too
ben is very jumpy
it may easily be the cause of his distress
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LozIsNoo Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'll agree with you on this one. At my mums we have my cat and my snake. Jet doesn't mind them, but we wouldn't let him outside for a few days at night. Phoenix seems to not mind them,although, he doesn't come out much, but then again, he always sleeps in his hide XD I hope he doesn't bite you again, I highly doubt he will, he seems lovely =3
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varoujan Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
He was probably just playing and accidently got a bit too rough.
Rats don't generally bite out of fear, they would rather run away than attack, so it's probably not that.

I got bitten by a rat for the first time a few days ago. One of my girls thought I had food and caught my finger. She realized I had no food and immediately let go, so it barely even bled.
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mechanicalmasochist Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yeah the bite I got wasn't serve or fast or sharp like it would b with fear I do think he was moody
though i wonder if it could be linked to fireworks as bonfire night is tomorrow and every day until then since Halloween people have been setting off fire works.

though he also went all puffy when i pulled him out of his new hiding place which is somewhere he isn't supposed to go >w>

hes been fine since I posted this though i even let him out later that day and though he did the same thing this time he did not bite as hard and only nibbled :3
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varoujan Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's possible he is a bit sick. Changes in behavior and puffing up their fur can both be signs of illness. I recommend you just watch how he's acting for a few days and if he keeps being strange take him in to the vet.

I have also heard stories of males becoming aggressive due to hormones, but once the owners nutered them they settled back down.

Having rats can be so expensive >_>
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mechanicalmasochist Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
well...he is sick
both Ben and Loki suffer from myco and though Loki has been treat twice before b it didn't clear up and after that failed ben starting showing symptoms too

I am trying to earn and save up money to treat them both at the same time now but alas being a student with no job makes it tough.

both had a scuffle today both puffed up
however over the last few night including tonight propel have been celebrating bon fire night with fireworks some only next door to us and Ben is a very flighty rat so I'm hoping that is the cause and not aggression or his illness, if it is illness once I have the money to pay for treatment they should both clear up hopefully
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Makaruu Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Student Filmographer
maybe he was just in a bad mood?
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Moochy-hyena Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012
Rats are intelligent animals, its possible he was just in a particularly bad mood that day.
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SugarTripping Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
He might be ill, or just got startled by something...
My cat randomly attacked my foot literally 20 minutes ago, I was just lying on my bed on my phone, like you, doing nothing much.
Unfortunately I don't have much experience in the field of animal behaviour (yet) so that's about all the help I can give you. :c
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Exotic-Supernova Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I had rats when I was little (3 of them, actually) and they never once bit me.
So I don't know what to say about that, but I hope he's feeling alright.
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SpiritPickle07 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well... if hes pinned your hand down and nibbled it before, maybe he was just playing like before?
Maybe he was hungry? Just kidding, but with my cat,(a cat is not a rat I know) she bites me, or trys to when she wants me to stop petting her or when she doesn't like where I'm petting her. Or maybe a noise startled him.
The closest thing I ever had to a rat was a gerbil, and sometimes she bit me when she got startled.
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soundandscar Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Filmographer
maybe stress because of him wanting to be dominant
or he might be a bit sick XC
my old gerbil was passing away and he bit me so hard and i had to open his mouth to get his teeth out...so he might be sick but by the amount of time you said you have had him its dominance so next time he does it try and show him that its wrong...rats are smart :D
also he might be sick but its very unlikely
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Blackwolfinfinity Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i its might be a sickness he has i forgot whats its called i think rat bite fever?...
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varoujan Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Rat bite fever does not make rats bite, it is caused by being bitten by a rat.

What is it with all these people commenting here who actually know nothing about rats?
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Blackwolfinfinity Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
-.- like u know more im jaust saying what i think happend
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varoujan Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Saying things when you have no idea what you are talking about can mislead others and be harmful. I suggest you don't in the future.
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Blackwolfinfinity Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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xXx-ReaperWolf-xXx Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
maybe cause....it's a rat....and they bite....?
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mechanicalmasochist Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well actually rats are the least likely rodent to bite out of all the rodents you can have as a pet
males even more so which is why its not usual behavior

rats will only bite if scared or upset in some way be it stress or pain.

I wouldn't be asking about it if it was usual behavior would I ?
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xXx-ReaperWolf-xXx Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
i don't know i never had a rat before. no need to be a bitch.
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Brownie-12 Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
.. acutally, you were a bitch. If you don't know about rats, don't comment.
And especially don't call her a bitch, she wasn't even unpolite!!! Thanks~
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SomethingSadistic Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i don't like you.
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Jindovi Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
iits exextremely rare for a healthy, well treated domestic rat to bite or become aggressive. Male rats are only known to be aggressive at times if they aren't fixed because they have high hormone levels, just as any unfixed animal will have.
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xXx-ReaperWolf-xXx Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
i don't know its a rat
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Jindovi Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Rats are animals too, you know.. domesticated ones are just as loyal and friendly as a dog. It's always smart to be educated before assuming its 'just a rat', you know?
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SugarTripping Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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Maensilver Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
My hairless rat i had did the same thing. this may just be him trying to play a bit rough :3
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AnotherDyingBreed Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Student General Artist
my friend has a rat and something similar to this happened
turned out her rat was sick so she took him to the vet...so good luck hun
hope everything gets better :)
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Aqua12345 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012
while, maybe he is doing it for attention or dominance. If you have other male rats, he may want to show them that he is tough enough by attacking the order. But, I highly doubt that is the case, maybe he also wants a mate.
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BlazeFireWolf1 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think he might be sick or something.You should take him to a vet if he keeps up the behavior.Rats know how to let you know when something is wrong with them.
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zachariiie Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Take him to a Vet. You probably didn't do anything wrong, animals seem to change their behavior when they are sick.
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InvaderLiz-TheCat Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
well, I think that if he does it more, you should take him to the vet, he might be ill. Other than that, I don't know...
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WolfyTheBlackWolf Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
My friend had a rat once that changed his usual behavior, some weeks after he died...
But my friend said he was old, but I would still keep an eye on your rat, maybe get him checked

Hope both you and him are ok :)
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darkenedfox137 Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2012  Hobbyist
R u ok?
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mechanicalmasochist Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
of course it was'nt a serious bite it just broke the skin enough to bleed only a little
if he intended on hurting me he could easily tear though muscle in my arm with ease
rats have an extremely powerful bite and when they go for a serious bite the two teeth on the bottom aren't stuck together and separate its essentially mini sabre tooth fangs down there.

thank fully as pets they are the least likely rodent to bite because they have a gentle nature.

making this whole situation ironic as I totally expected to get bitten by wheatley my snake since everyone says they always will bite at least once and he has never bit me :I
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darkenedfox137 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist
Ok I'm glad your ok. (In mind, oooooooh myyyyyy goooooooood, flighty talked to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!)
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Mooncat52 Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
aw i'm sorry your rat bite you sorry i dont know alot about rats though i've been trying to do some research so i can get one of my own rats cause they're such cool creatures but anyway sorry that your rat bit you i bet he might have been playing rough or you did some to irrtate him cause my cat bites my hand or my foot if i keep bothering her but of course cats are different from rats so i hope you get this problem stored out with ur rat ^^
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mechanicalmasochist Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
rats very rarely bite unlike hamsters they aren't naturally biters which is why I worried
though fireworks have been going off close range all week it might be linked to that
if you do get rats make sure to get from a breeder as pet shops buy from mills which breeds illness and such
both my rats were from a pet shop and both have a small bit of bone exposed on their tail tip and suffer from an illness called myco which is caused by bad breeding.
I certainly will never buy pets from a pet shop again after this it was a foolish mistake on my part not doing my research enough :c
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Mooncat52 Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
sorry about that miss typing my computer tends to do that
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DrawerMich Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
maybe he was just nervous
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Dappleswirl Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Something's wrong
I don't mean to scare you, but in my experience, when an animal does something deliberately unusual it's for a reason. Even when you told him to stop, he kept going, right? And the bites were slow, like he thought it through. Rats are very intelligent creatures, an if something's wrong he'll find a way to tell you. If you can't afford to get him checked, keep your eye on him. He might tell you more.
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mechanicalmasochist Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
both my rats are myco sufferers but i can't afford the treatment right now (being a student with no job)
I know male rats can sometimes become more aggressive as they age due to hormones too
but I got him back out later and played with him like a did before he did pin my hand again but this time him did not bite hard.

I noticed today his fur isn't half as puffy so I'm assuming its stress however stress in rats is often related to illness and unlike loki ben has never had any treatment for his myco as he showed no symptoms when I got him like loki did
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Dappleswirl Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
What kind of cage do you keep them in? A fish tank or plastic rat cage?
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mechanicalmasochist Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
nope their cage is two tier with a plastic level and floor I use care fresh bedding and the rest of the cage is horizontal bars
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Dappleswirl Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Is it metal? I once had two mice, both chewed the plastic bars, and later died. They both acted funny beforehand and I didnt see it. I wish I would've known...
Anyway, the best thing to do is to keep a close eye. Watch him and what he does. If he gets back to his old self, then he's probally fine. But if he keeps acting funny, keep a very close eye...
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mechanicalmasochist Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yes of course its metal I know rats can chew through thin steel dust bin lids if they need to sooo yeah.

I have done plenty of research on housing and care for them incuding a 2 year college course on caring and managing animals

so their housing should'nt be a problem.

I know rats do take out their stress on others though.
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